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Hmm, I've long been baffled by a lot of Three's figures - infact all the networks figures baffle me. The calculations they use for the various figures we see just aren't practical in real terms. ARPU is the killer!
Taking dealer cashbacks out of the equation I'd imagine it has to come down to cheaper handsets. Three will no doubt pay a lot less for the LG's now than it did when the U8110 came out, and it's probably the biggest purchaser of the Moto's and NEC's... the 6680 could cost them, *if* they release it. Interesting that in just one quarter new subscribers are having 20 less spent on them. Saying that, HWL recently had a whole accounting shakeup did it not, I daresay there will be a lot of questionmarks when trying to compare figures old and new. Perhaps that's the idea.
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Keep in mind that data provided by Huth (end march) were for the seven countries were 3G services are active. SACs are on average. SACs in Italy (44% of Hutch 3G subs in the world) are much lower then in the UK.
SAC (or CAC) given by Hutch were : 299 on average for jan/jul 252 in July 270 in November 271 on average for H2 04. Denis Last edited by Denis_mynse : 5th April 2005 at 09:24 AM.
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UK ARPU is falling and 3 have a much lower revenue from non-voice than other networks. No surprise really as they dont have any open Internet access so revenues from data are restricted to their own content sales.
My biggest concern is the real vs the fake figures. ARPU is about billed revenues which is fine but latterly 3 and others pay dealers who offer consumers cashbacks which whilst entirely legitimate disguise the true amounts that customers really spend on the products and services. For as long as the cashbacks feature I take the whole ARPU statistic with a ton of salt (especially from a new network with most of their customers appearing during periods of heavy cashback activity).
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I don't think the dealers are getting paid any extra to offer the cashback incentives - it'll just be coming out of their commissions. The networks are obviously paying the dealers too much if they feel they can give large chunks of it away!
I thought Three had much higher non-voice revenues, in terms of a percentage, than other UK nets?
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