[msachania]

Hi,

I have just placed an order for a K800i its on o2 uk and i was wondering if it will accept my three uk sim card once its unlocked?

Many thanks.

[hecatae]

I hope that 3G phone will accept your 3 uk sim, and I dont believe it'll need to be unlocked from o2 uk, it should come already unlocked.

[Ben]

There's a chance that a lot of Three's content wont work until they release the K800i themselves, so if you use Three's content a lot then you'll maybe better waiting. Best of luck!

[msachania]

thanks guys for the quick reply,

i dont use anything on three besides making calls and sometimes sending texts. so fingers crossed.

ill try it once i receive it on friday/saturday and let you know the results.

thanks once again,

[msachania]

got the phone yesterday and currently i have put my three uk sim and its working perfectly fine :D best phone i have ever had

[Carl]

Hmmm, so do I but.....can't get onto Planet 3.
Any ideas how to ?

[getti]

Do you have the three settings stored? If not check out www.sonyericsson.com/uk and get them sent straight to the phone

[3GsINgH]

Sony Ericsson dont send the settings out for 3. You will need to input then manually:

Go to Connectivity
Data Communication
Data Accounts
New Account
PS Data
Give it a name - Three
APN - three.co.uk
Save
Edit
Password Request - Off
Allow Calls - Automatic
IP Address - Blank
DNS Address - Blank
Authentication - Tick Normal, Secure and None
Data Compression - Off
Header Compression - Off

Go to Connectivity
Data Communication
Internet Settings
Internet Profiles
New Profile
Name - Three WAP
Connect Using - Three (named earlier)
Save
Highlight and Select More
Settings
Internet Mode - Http
Use Proxy - No
Save
Highlight and Select More
Advanced
Change Homepage
Name - 3 Services
Address - http://mobile.three.co.uk/hb/K800i/HutchKey (case sensitive)
Save

Go to Connectivity
Data Communication
Internet Settings
Internet Profiles
New Profile
Name - Three MMS
Connect Using - Three (named earlier)
Save
Highlight and Select More
Settings
Internet Mode - WAP
IP Address - 217.171.129.2
Security - Off
Username - (blank)
Password - (blank)
Save
Highlight and Select More
Advanced
Change Homepage
Name - MMS
Address - http://mms.um.three.co.uk:10021/mmsc
Save

Go to Connectivity
Data Communication
Streaming Settings
Connect Using - Three
Use Proxy - No
Save

Go to Connectivity
Data Communication
Internet Settings
Internet Profiles
Select the Three WAP profile

Go to Messaging
Settings
Picture Message
Validity Period - Network maximum
Read Report - On
Delivery Report - On
Content Alert - On
Auto Download - Always
Accept Messages - (Select All)
Message Server - http://mms.um.three.co.uk:10021/mmsc
Internet Profile - Three MMS

[Carl]

Thank you very much for your detailed step by step. Excellent hep.
I contacted Three, just before I read this and here goes what they said :

You cannot use a non Three phone on Three services, hahahahahahah. I called again, a few minutes later and a bloke went with me through a few steps but, after him speaking to someone, he said the same : I cannot use a non Three phone on their services. I could use it to make and receive calls but that's it.

Well, it's working now

Thanks a lot

[kyllerbuzcut]

I am also experiencing the same problems. I too got rid of the 3 branding and replaced with an original SE one. Makes the phone work alot better and you don't end up accidentally opening up some 3 advert or connecting to their site every 5 seconds cos of all the links they spread about in the menus.
Anyway, after manually entering in these same settings I found off the internet the only thing, that I have found so far not working, is sending MMS. I haven't tried video calling yet.
I heard about 3 not wanting to give out the settings over the air etc so I tried putting in a free pay as you go sim card and calling them saying I wanted to use that phone to give as a present and was testing it, but mms wasn't working, can you please text me the settings. The guy said the k800 wasn't 3g enabled ( HELLO!!- you gave me it.. but I didnt tell him that lol) and this would be why it isn't working. I argued with him saying they have the phone available to buy on Three. He eventually went through some settings with me and nothing worked ( the things he got me to try were bizarre) then he said you need to buy another phone to put your sim card in, and refused to text me the settings cos he didn't think this was a 3g phone ( I also told him I got it off ebay and gave him a false IMEI code incase they wanted to block it or something). I didn't want to push my bluff too far so I just hung up after that, but maybe someone with better bluffing skills can try the same method to get someone there to text them the settings and post them up somewhere.
If they could it would be a great help. I might try again later and see how far I can get, but I don't want to arouse their suspicions and get my phone blocked.

If someone helps us out here ( I am sure there must be many of us in the same boat) then they are truly worthy of god like status and praise.

Thanks in advance

[hecatae]

Sony Ericsson dont send the settings out for 3. You will need to input then manually:



Go to Connectivity
Data Communication
Internet Settings
Internet Profiles
New Profile
Name - Three MMS
Connect Using - Three (named earlier)
Save
Highlight and Select More
Settings
Internet Mode - WAP
IP Address - 217.171.129.2
Security - Off
Username - (blank)
Password - (blank)
Save
Highlight and Select More
Advanced
Change Homepage
Name - MMS
Address - http://mms.um.three.co.uk:10021/mmsc
Save



Go to Messaging
Settings
Picture Message
Validity Period - Network maximum
Read Report - On
Delivery Report - On
Content Alert - On
Auto Download - Always
Accept Messages - (Select All)
Message Server - http://mms.um.three.co.uk:10021/mmsc
Internet Profile - Three MMS

got that working on a debranded k608i with k600i firmware so it's got to work on a debranded k800i

[kyllerbuzcut]

Hi, and thanks.
This is the settings I have put on already. Some of the menu options are different but the main settings have been put in the correct places. It still seems to look like it is sending an MMS but it will never send, just keeps it in the outbox, and tries to connect and send it now and again. I am thinking now that maybe it's something to do with something else, maybe on Three's site? Anyone with any info, or someone who has already got their K800 to work right could provide some valuable info here. I've checked out a few forums now and there seem to be quite a few people with this same problem all looking for a fix.
...Could Three finally be sabotaging phones not tattoo'd and hooked up to their drip-feed services????

[Hands0n]

...Could Three finally be sabotaging phones not tattoo'd and hooked up to their drip-feed services????

Not for MMS, they couldn't, its too basic for that.

Connectivity problems with MMS are usually either wrong settings or typo's. Case sensitivity and additional/missing/incorrect characters are normally at fault. Worth checking thoroughly that "0" (zero), "o" and "O" are not being interchanged.

Also, it could be that MMS is not enabled [properly] for your account. Three's CS should be able to re-register you for MMS.

When their CS is talking about "Three Services" they are probably on about what can be had in the Browser (Triangle Key). Here they tend to build custom home pages per handset model. If you get that wrong they rarely work well, if at all. Also, their CS is not that well versed in anything outside the standard product. If they can't find it on their screen then they really cannot help you at all - and most of them wont even try. Hence the standard response.

[kyllerbuzcut]

Interesting development:-
Switched the network settings to recieve 2g (GSM) signal only and tried to send a mms and it worked. got a bit under the text when I was asked to- send? Yes or No - that said 'not on home network, send anyway?', then it went through the same thing- looked like it was trying to send... and it sent. cool eh:)?now i had been double checking the settings were still all the same as they were supposed to be just before I tried that, so whether I did something there to make it work I am not sure, but either way I now have a way to send mms.

While I was writing this I just thought to try and re connect to the 3g network signal and tried to send a mms and it just worked, so everyone else having this problem, just keep trying playing around with those settings, and reconfiguring them around and back again, and try switching to 2g signal and sending then back again.

I now have a fully working, unbranded k800:) WOOHOO


Thanks

p.s
the options on this phone seem to vary from other SE phones that those settings work on, so I am not sure exactly what I was doing before, or doing now to make it work, but just keep trying those different combinations with those settings - here's what I got:

make the Three gprs(or three wap or whatever name you call it) internet profile like what is described before- with homepage of http://mobile.three.co.uk/hb/K800i/HutchKey - with the name of 3 Services
than make the 3 MMs as an internet profile also

use proxy:yes

proxy address: mms.three.co.uk

port number 8799

no username or password

This homepage is http://mms.um.three.co.uk:10021/mmsc - with the name MMS

Then you need to make a 'Data Account' under connectivity then Data Communication, called 3 MMS with APN three.co.uk and IP address of 217.171.129.2 - I have the same numbers in DNS address, not sure if that is required, but it works. The things i have ticked in there for Authentications are 'None' 'PAP' and 'CHAP' I think everything else is unchanged form the normal.
For the wap you also need to create an account with same name as the wap setting, in my case '3 GPRS'
APN: three.co.uk
allow calls: automatic
everything else normal
THAN under messages and then settings, then picture message:-
change mms profile and select 3 MMS
( I think i might have had to create this myself the first time I tried to create a MMS it gave me the option to create this if I remember correctly)
the options in here are:-You can edit the profile name ( 3 MMS)
Message server: http://mms.um.three.co.uk@10021/mmsc

Internet profile: Select the internet profile 'Three MMS' here


and that as they say seems to be that

[Hands0n]

Excellent :) A bit of perseverence and a good result obtained. WooHoo indeed :D

If ever I've been stuck reconfiguring a handset like this it has normally been one or more incorrect chars or suchlike.

Thanks for posting your update and the good stuff of the detail too.

[kyllerbuzcut]

Thanks- Had looked on about 7 or 8 forums, and found people having same problem as me, then posted myself on this and a couple of others. So- as I finally got it to work, I thought the least I could do was post what i did.

MODS-

Howz about getting all these settings for different phones stickied somewhere?
and we can get them altered when certain phones have different options to other phones, as in this case

so we'd have stickied the basic settings, or a forunm heading with them in, then a subsection with the various things different phones need to go with their different options that they have?

[Ben]

Hi kylerbuzcut,

I've stickied your MMS settings in the K800i section. I'm sure they'll be useful to many in your position.

Ben

[A[L]C]

Hi can anyone help?

My MMS is working, but I cannot access the three web pages to check my account useage etc... please help

edit: this is after de-branding

[hecatae]

had to upgrade to r8bf003 for all 3 settings to download and install fine.