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Hands0n
24th May 2006, 10:39 PM
The hard part is to get the balance right when someone complains. For sure, the modern day mobile phone is getting much more than that. With the ability to accept charges against the phone bill for Content and Services the handset is slowly, but surely, becoming an electronic credit token. Protecting the SIM becomes a vital requirement. Would you leave your credit cards in your hotel room? Then why should this chap expect too much sympathy when he left his SIM in there? Or is he right, should Vodafone have seen the unusal pattern of usage and done something about it? But then what if he had genuinely needed to cause such an unusual pattern of usage? How would he have felt when Vodafone suspended his SIM? Difficult indeed.



A Vodafone customer believes he shouldn't be liable for an £850 bill run up after his SIM card was stolen, but the mobile operator disagrees

Vodafone has warned mobile phone users to "think of their phone and SIM as a wallet", after a customer whose SIM was stolen overseas was stung with an £850 bill.

Stephen Tracey told ZDNet UK he received the bill after his SIM card went missing in South Africa.

"I had changed my SIM card over to a local one to avoid expensive call charges, however my UK card was stolen from a hotel without my knowledge and used for 10 days," he said.

He subsequently called Vodafone and the SIM was cancelled, but when he returned home he was hit with the £850 bill, as nearly 100 calls had been made per day for the 10-day period.

Tracey believes that Vodafone should have spotted the sudden increase in activity on his SIM card and taken action, in the same way that banks can detect unusual account behaviour. He entered into a dialogue with Vodafone, and claims they responded aggressively when he said he should not be liable for the bill.

"We argued for a long time," he told ZDNet UK on Tuesday. Referring to the 50 percent discount they eventually offered him, he said: "They phrased it as a goodwill gesture".

"It went from 10 percent to 20 percent to 25 to 30 to 50, and each time I refused it. But then it reached the point where I had to pay the next bill — which I couldn't afford — or take the offer.

"What got me was that it was a Vodafone SIM card and all the calls were made to Vodacom, which is in the same group. They're just passing the buck internally," he said.

Vodafone's spokesperson confirmed to ZDNet UK that the company had immediately barred Tracey's SIM when it was reported stolen, and said splitting the bill was "as far as we were able to go".

"Obviously we've taken it on trust that all the calls made in South Africa were made fraudulently," she said. "Unfortunately he is liable for use of the SIM, and that would be stated in his contract."

She urged mobile phone users to see their phones and SIMs as "like a wallet with live money in it", suggesting, "if he were to try and make an insurance claim, they might have some serious questions to ask him about where it was and how he was looking after it."

She also claimed there were inaccuracies in other recent stories which involved stolen Vodafone phones leading to massive bills.

A story reported last week regarding a charity worker who was hit with a £2,800 bill after his phone was stolen in Borneo failed to mention that the phone was not reported stolen for six months, she alleged.




Article Source: The Register (http://news.zdnet.co.uk/communications/3ggprs/0,39020339,39270932,00.htm)

Ben
24th May 2006, 10:48 PM
I thought mobile phone companies employed credit limits to prevent exactly this sort of thing?

IMHO the guy was a turnip for letting his contract SIM out of his sight and taking so long to notice it was stolen, but Vodafone should have spotted the irregular usage.

For example, use a credit card for an 'unusual' purchase that is outside your usual pattern and the card company will usually call you to verify the purchase and check everything is OK. Why are there not similar measures to protect contract SIM accounts - they're essentially the same thing?

Oh, he also should have had a PIN on his SIM - I do, and I think anyone is crazy not to put a PIN on a contract SIM card. :)

Hands0n
25th May 2006, 07:46 AM
Yes, not enough use is made of the SIM and Handset PIN numbers. I use both. It is a bit of a chore to get the handset started but then how many times in a week/month does anyone do that?

At least then the SIM and the Handset cannot be used - at least not unless the thieving g*t has access to the right equipment to perform the requisite unlocks.


It is a bit of a laugh though. Vodafone are trying to have it both ways. Their rep is quoted [above] as saying;


She urged mobile phone users to see their phones and SIMs as "like a wallet with live money in it", suggesting, "if he were to try and make an insurance claim, they might have some serious questions to ask him about where it was and how he was looking after it."

Then almost in the same breath is suggesting that they do not have a need or obligation to track unusual usage patterns.

Well, dear Vodafone, is the cell phone "like a wallet" or is it not? Because if it is, you do have some significant culpability in the loss. Once the FSA gets the notion that mobile phone handsets are "like a wallet" they will start regulating the mobile ops, and they [the mobops] won't be liking that too much having had the field to themselves pretty much all the way to date.